Curse

aron searle · Jul 02, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by Zhou Feng

Well I find it overall powerful because there's little to stop these skills other then running away from them. Due to the fact they 'steal' life even Aura of Lich, Reversal of Fortune, skills that protect versus damage like Protective Spirit, etc have little to no effect. You can't Backfire them either. In fact theres almost nothing you can do to stop them other then kill them as quickly as possible or Spiteful them. Any ideas? Maybe lower 'steal' damage since its a type of 'damage' that has nothing to really stop it.

Anyone spot the holes in that argument.

Run away from them, and let your team mates kill him, stop tying to tank it.

Seriosly my healing monk cant kill a warrior attacking me, does that mean all warriors need nerfing because all i can do is kite?

Lim-Dul · Jul 07, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Good point. ;-)

I find it so funny when people start getting owned by some build and don't want to switch theirs to counter it.

I've been playing a touch ranger since yesterday - I wanted to see what everybody is moaning about. And you know what? I found out that there's not much to moan about.

Touch Rangers COMPLETELY lack the ability to snare their enemies - and every attempt to change that would result in this build sucking. ;-) A Monk can run circles around a touch ranger - wow - they hit him for 65 (sometimes for 68 with BM 13) every now and then - one healing spell and you're fit again. Dodge and Zojun's Hate don't help much - the touches have an aftercast which makes you stop running after each use - even with a 33% speed bonus you will catch your enemy 1-2 times at most. And then you have to use OoB from time to time... And then you have to heal yourself with the touches again... But then you can't cause you can't catch anybody etc. etc.

Note that I'm describing a situation where you don't have any counters against them. If you do, then they're SO fried, you wouldn't believe it.

Even a good shock warrior can own a touch ranger.

There are so many overused builds - many are better and many are worse than touch rangers.

I really, really hate the nerf-spiral that appears after a while in every game. Instead of making some spells/skills/professions stronger and better suited to fight popular builds, the community and game designers start nerfing everything so that after a while we have a bunch of useless skills and professions that are totally no fun to play.

Another thing is: everybody claims that touch rangers are so easy to play. How many of these people have actually played a touch ranger? How is playing a touch ranger easier than playing e.g. an Ele, or a W for that matter? That your two attack skills recharge faster? Yet you still have to use OoB wisely, choose your targets carefully, switch them often and use your defensive skills as well. I've been playing every single profession both in PvE and PvP and I know what I'm talking about. There are only a few builds that are hard to play and hence nobody (read: no skill-less newbie - experienced players do use them =) uses them.

If you want to nerf touch rangers, then nerf all the W/Mos with Mending/Healing Hands/Healing Breeze etc. first - I mean - is there a build that is more overused than this one? Yet nobody complains cause everybody knows meanwhile how to deal with them.

P.S. Of course I KNOW that the touch rangers will be nerfed no matter what, so writing about them is kind of a waste of time. I just had to speak my mind on that matter though. =)

funey mounky · Jul 08, 2006, 12:32 AM // 00:32

touch rangers are osem dont power down the ranger make other classes more powerfull

Puebert · Jul 08, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Just give the touch skills a longer recharge, not absurdley (my apologies for spelling errors :/)long, just something like 5 or 6 seconds. So they aren't spammable.

pumpkin pie · Jul 23, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Fire nuker can kill a toucher, so does poison arrow ranger, mesmer. why nerf it, think of a build to kill them. and if u ask if I ever kill a toucher with those three profession before , yes many times in Alliance Battle. but its not 100% time you win. so goes for every other build.